1st impulses aka normal behavior for adolescents is neither to think your MOM is hOt and want her nor do daughters crave their fathers and want them.(from what i understand) That is crazy! Now we all know adolescents might want other peoples /friends moms but not their own. (a select few which fit the Oedipal Instincts) I agree with the second paragraph of this article kinda.
Somebody please help me with this I cannot wrap my head around it: Much thanks
"that is, I do not believe that they are capable of creating something absolutely new and peculiar to themselves. It is far more probable -- and this is confirmed by incidental observations of normal children -- that in their amorous or hostile attitude toward their parents, psychoneurotics do no more than reveal to us, by magnification, something that occurs less markedly and intensively in the minds of the majority of children. Antiquity has furnished us with legendary matter which corroborates this belief, and the profound and universal validity of the old legends is explicable only by an equally universal validity of the above-mentioned hypothesis of infantile psychology. I am referring to the legend of King Oedipus and the Oedipus Rex of Sophocles."
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OK, Freud says "psychonurotics" fixate on their mothers. These are people who have been distorted in popular culture to create characters like Norman Bates in "Psycho" and in serial killer fiction (The Concrete Blonde by Michael Connelly is great!). Freud says these people magnify to an abnormal degree something that is present in all of us, thus we all must have some sort of attachment to our mothers (or fathers) that borders on sexual attachment (in a mild form). In some people this is stronger than in others. Freud is definately not saying we all want to have sex with the parent of the opposite sex, but he's saying that our hidden desires and relationships with our parents both have something to do with that sexual attraction.
Check out this article if you continue to doubt what Freud says.
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/print/CTVNews/20070614/fathers_study_070614/20070614/?hub=SciTech&subhub=PrintStory
I don't really doubt him but I needed to take a stand on something for the paper and such
but can freud really use oedipus as an example of this? he had no idea that jocasta was his mom.
i agree with alex. i dont think freud can. Oedipus' fate was to marry his mother, adn the greeks believed that there was no way to escape your fate. so Oedipus was goin to marry his mother no matter how he felt about her. but Freud can use oedipus cuse the reason he married jocasta is because it is his mother and he must of had feelings for her. So some parts of Oedipus work for The Oedipul Complex and some dont.
i agree that it was Oedipus's fate to marry his mother and kill his father and Freud cannot really parallel Oedipus with his theory because the gods controlled all fate in mythology. but society today does not hold the belief that the gods control our fate so Freud's theory may actually be somewhat valid in my opinion.
Ture that, if oedipus would have known that Jocasta was his mother I am certain that the story would have gone differently. Freud can't really use oedipus is an example because oedipus didn't knowingly sleep with his mother, and when he found out that Jocasta was his mom...he gauged his own eyes out.
i think Freud's theory is total bologni. i have never felt a sexual impulse toward my mother and im pretty sure that none of my brothers have either. i completely disagree with that whole handout.
I don't think that Freud's theory can be applied to Oedipus in any way because Oedipus did not know who is mother and his father were so therefore his impulses were just regular feelings towards people who he encountered.
Freud can use Oedipus as an example of the Greeks recognizing the idea of sons loving their mothers, true Oedipus could not escape his fate, but Freud uses the principle of a son loving his mother from the play to provide historical examples of oedipal complexes, in other words Freud can use examples from Oedipus to further his theory about oedipal complexes because the play recognizes the fact that Greeks were familiar with this phenomenon
Freud can use Oedipus as an example of the Greeks recognizing the idea of sons loving their mothers, true Oedipus could not escape his fate, but Freud uses the principle of a son loving his mother from the play to provide historical examples of oedipal complexes, in other words Freud can use examples from Oedipus to further his theory about oedipal complexes because the play recognizes the fact that Greeks were familiar with this phenomenon
Im not so sure Freud can you Oedipus as an example in his theory because we have to remember that the story of Oedipus is a myth
^^^ true, haha
im liking the comments
mrs. d: Freud is definately not saying we all want to have sex with the parent of the opposite sex,
it says that in the handout
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