in the prologue it seemed to me that Mother Goodeye was indecisive, jittery, and nuts in the way she spoke of the three children though she does elude to their significant names..it just seems like shes wired. in act one scene 1 to me Gregory has some heart in him but when a good thought pops up, Wherritt is there to correct him and steer him to the dark side. I also do not understand why there is alot annoying REPETITON.
Annoyingly Repetitious..these guys should get hearing aides..pg 16-17, "acoording to Manual" is is repeated, pg 17 "warm clothing" is mentioned 5-6 times almost the exact same phrase too, pg 18 they keep telling each other "i did my duty"...pg 20 "save their souls" is mentioned 3-4 times. additional repetitious occurrences: " harms way" , "whipped", "impertinence", and "dogs"
It reminds me of the Guiness beer commercials where the two old men keep saying brilliant..brillant brillant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WqO0Q_zNKA
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Thats interesting I saw some repition but I didn't think anything of it. Now that you pointed it out that is annoying. You know how people mention things and they stay on your mind till the task is over and done with? Well now I'm going to be thinking about that and noticing it throughout the book. I also hate repitition; I like short and concise.
I have a lot of comments about this (surprise!), but I want to see what you come up with.
Think about:
1)What does repeating things do for us? For you?
2) Who is responsible Sailor's beating if it was done "according to the manual"?
We need to remember that this piece was intended as a play, not a story or novel. The repetition helps on stage to emphasize important aspects of the plot that might be overlooked and to perhaps foreshadow or give hints to what might occur later in the plot.
We need to remember that this piece was intended as a play, not a story or novel. The repetition helps on stage to emphasize important aspects of the plot that might be overlooked and to perhaps foreshadow or give hints to what might occur later in the plot.
it seems that momaday is dumbing her characters ( the white teachers) down when they don't need to be- if she is trying to make a point then she should go outright and say it
Doug - 1 - N. Scott Momdaday - is it a man or a woman?
2. They may seem a little dumb to us now, in 2008, but they represent the widespread beliefs Americans held about Native Americans from colonial times to the present. Maybe modern people don't articulate these ideas in the same way, but our current governmental policies are sure shaped by these historical ideas, attitudes, and resultant policies, event if we're trying to make up for past mistakes.
I thought Gregory seemed ignorant. He talked about how Native Americans didn't have an agricultural tradition. The Kiowa Indiands weren't into agriculture because they were nomadic. However, Gregory seems to be talking about Native Americans in general - and Native Americans definitely had an agricultural tradition.
I think Wherritt sounds like a complete nutjob. He alternates between ranting and praising himself. He kind of reminds me of Smeagle from Lord of the Rings (when he's arguing with himself). Wherritt is a hypocrite. He talks about wanting to make American Indians feel welcome in America; He wants them to feel like Americans. But the Native Americans were in North America first. They were the first Americans.
i think when Wherrit and Gregory keep repeating that "they did their duty" and "save their souls", it seems like they are trying to justify what they do and it just gets across to the reader how Wherrit is a bad guy and ignorant
I think the repetition may be eluding to the fact that Momaday is trying to convey to the reader. He wants to show the reader that Wherritt and Gregory are naive and ignorant. It may also show later that they are very uneducated.
the only repetition I noticed was when Mother Goodeye is talking about Mosatse and she says, "they are homesick, they are going to the camps, they are camping." and when she is talking about Koi-khan-hodle she says,"He is going to the camps, he is camping. I think Mother Goodeye is really upset about these three boys dying and her repetition to me makes me feel she is still in some what of a shock that it happened.
oh and i forgot about how Gregory keeps repeating "the great plains of the North American Continent." I think is keeps saying this because he feels guilty about the boys dying. I think he subconsciously keeps saying because Wherritt tries to justify the boys leaving and Gregory keeps repeating this because he knows what happened was wrong and deep down in side he really does care that these boys were killed but will not admit it because of Wherritt.
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